sellout.

not that it even needs to be said amongst anyone who knows anything about real music, but green day are a bunch of sellouts. i mean those dudes sold out in the mid-90s when they put out dookie for christ sake. let's get real here. these dude's were playing bars in berkeley in the late 80s. now they are playing madison square garden. i'm sorry, but when you are playing a show to 50,000 people in the middle of manhattan, you are no longer a punk-rock band. you are britney spears. you are fergie or some other pop-culture bullshit.

i mean look at these dudes. this is a picture from the early 90s:


this is green day in 2009, looking like every other emo fag on the planet:


who the fuck are these assholes trying to kid. they are about as punk rock as the bush administration. and now they have all these whiny-sounding ballad songs because that's what is popular with the kids nowadays (record executive horseshit). punk rockers don't have stylists, accountants and publicists. punk rockers piss in gutters and smash beer bottles. punk rockers have throat tattoos and play shows in dive bars. if you think these dudes are "punk", then you are nothing more than one of MTV's little robots and you should kindly throw yourself off the top of a tall building.

you wanna listen to some punk? try buying a black flag album or a (danzig-era) misfits album or a dead kennedys album. or maybe some descendents. how about some old NOFX (who were doing the whole three-cord pop-punk thing way longer and better than green day). the list is endless.

you wanna go see green day and be into green day? fine. they have some catchy songs and that's all good. just don't call them punk rock, because they are anything but.

(ps - the same goes for blink182)

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pioneers.

say what you want about NOFX, but they have been around for a long time, over 20 years in the game and they are still making records. personally, i grew up on these dudes. i had ribbed, s&m airlines, white trash, two heebs and a bean, punk in drublic, the longest line and heavy petting zoo all on cassette. i still have them all tucked away in a box somewhere. now i have them all on my ipod, along with a lot of stuff from comps and 7 inches, but regardless. these dudes have been at it for years, and tons of bands still continue to rip them off. you gotta respect them for the ground that they laid for all these shitty "punk" bands that are out now. and not for nothing, but fat mike is fucking hilarious.